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Jimboot

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PING whois.auda.ltd (199.15.83.22): 56 data bytes

64 bytes from 199.15.83.22: icmp_seq=0 ttl=247 time=380.448 ms


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Scott.L

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auDA Sponsorship Agreement with ICANN

4.3 ccTLD Registry Data Escrow.

The escrow agent or mirror-site operator shall be mutually approved by the Governmental Authority and the Sponsoring Organization and shall not be under the Sponsoring Organization's control.
  • the whois information for auDA.ltd is registered under auDA’s name [the sponsoring organisation].
Is this a contravention of ICANN’s sponsorship provision?
 

Jimboot

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Let's find out :)

auDA Sponsorship Agreement with ICANN

4.3 ccTLD Registry Data Escrow.

The escrow agent or mirror-site operator shall be mutually approved by the Governmental Authority and the Sponsoring Organization and shall not be under the Sponsoring Organization's control.
  • the whois information for auDA.ltd is registered under auDA’s name [the sponsoring organisation].
Is this a contravention of ICANN’s sponsorship provision?
 

DomainNames

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Your exaggerated negative rhetoric (fake news) on other threads more damaging to the aftermarket than this 14 day delay.
Bear in mind that it could take up to 14 days but it could be as little as a week, so keep your eyes peeled for emails about this.
Also for the record if anyone asked us if we would volunteer to be offline for 14 days if it helped significantly reduce the risk during the migration by giving registrants and registrars more time to ensure data integrity both David and I would willingly put our hands up and say it is a good thing.
Try to think of it as them looking after your existing assets, this is literally in all our best interests.
- Anthony
 

Scott.L

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Can everyone believe this, a ccTLD registry actually registers a gTLD from another registry to use for their own nations whois?

Why not use.
Whois.org.au
It belongs to auDA

My stomach hurts from laughing...honestly.
 

joshrowe

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Scott.L

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Question to all techies.

Is it simple to correct this whois from whois.auDA.tld to whois.org.au

It doesn't require transition or anything huge, right?
 

Drop.com.au

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Question to all techies.

Is it simple to correct this whois from whois.auDA.tld to whois.org.au

It doesn't require transition or anything huge, right?
It would have been trivial last week or last month. It is still relatively easy from a technical perspective but as the URL becomes more and more indexed it starts to hurt from a reputation perspective.

As Josh points out IANA has not been updated yet so maybe now is a good time to fix it to match the Final Technical Specification which is published at the links below.
https://www.auda.org.au/industry-information/registry/registry-transformation-project-2017/
https://www.auda.org.au/assets/Uplo...tions-final-version-1-September-2017-v3.1.pdf
2.4.1. Registry - provided Registration Data Directory Service
The registry operator will operate a WHOIS service available via port 43 in accordance with RFC 3912 – WHOIS Protocol Specification, and a web - based Registration Data Directory Service at <whois.org.au > providing free public query - based access.

- Anthony
 

Drop.com.au

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what does this mean?
https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/au.html

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the Delegation Record for .AU nameservers listed on the IANA website do not resolve to auDA?
Those IP addresses are for DNS servers. They do not respond on port 80 so you cannot go to them in a browser which is what I assume you are doing.

To query them you need to use a command called dig (domain information grope) here is a grope of r.au (65.22.197.1) telling us what drop.com.au name servers are.
dig @r.au drop.com.au
; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-9+deb8u15-Debian <<>> @r.au drop.com.au
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4955
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;drop.com.au. IN A
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
drop.com.au. 300 IN NS ns2.trellian.com.
drop.com.au. 300 IN NS ns1.trellian.com.
;; Query time: 8 msec
;; SERVER: 65.22.197.1#53(65.22.197.1)
;; WHEN: Mon Jul 02 15:13:32 AEST 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 88

- Anthony
 

Jimboot

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Question to all techies.

Is it simple to correct this whois from whois.auDA.tld to whois.org.au

It doesn't require transition or anything huge, right?
Yes. There are still only 2 pages indexed by google but basically you would 301 your TLD and point the nameservers of org.au at the servers where your data is being hosted... so Canada :)
 

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