whats your paln b ?

[Rhythm]

Do you think those stats are not an example of .net.au bleeding to .com.au?

Only thing those stats should encourage everyone to do is to 301 redirect from www to non-www or vice versa.

Now *that* is what I call bleeding.

As I've said Whirlpool is just a bad example. ABC is an ok example.

They may prove indicative to you but they are inconclusive to me.

I need a higher standard of proof.

 

[findtim]

Rhythm if you are so keen to defend .net.au i am sure there are many members here who would like to send you a list of theirs for you to buy, other then that you shouldn't be on here as you have a lot of handregistrations to do for all those good .net.au's still not registered.

here's a good link to speed things up
https://www.dntrade.com.au/expired-domain-search.php

tim

 

[snoopy]

Only thing those stats should encourage everyone to do is to 301 redirect from www to non-www or vice versa.

Now *that* is what I call bleeding.

As I've said Whirlpool is just a bad example. ABC is an ok example.

They may prove indicative to you but they are inconclusive to me.

I need a higher standard of proof.

If the ABC one is an "ok example" why are you still denying bleed exists?

 

[Rhythm]

I have not denied it. Nor have I accepted it as I just have not come across enough evidence that traffic bleed exists.

When I wrote 'traffic bleed' or 'significant traffic bleed' it was referring to demonoids "they'll bleed a lot of traffic" in his post I was responding to:

Completely agree, they'll bleed a lot of traffic to the .com.au - they should've just picked a different phrase they could get (or bought a domain on the aftermarket), so they could avoid the confusion.

 

[eBranding.com.au]

I have not denied it. Nor have I accepted it as I just have not come across enough evidence that traffic bleed exists.

When I wrote 'traffic bleed' or 'significant traffic bleed' it was referring to demonoids "they'll bleed a lot of traffic" in his post I was responding to:

My comment that you're quoting was in reference to the particular case that Tim referred to. On traffic bleed more generally, which is what has been predominantly discussed in this thread - my comments were a bit different, see pertinent parts below:

I've seen people do it first-hand, they automatically type in the address... .com.au. I've done it myself.

Different extension, but the test below (and others I've done) highlighted traffic bleed for me. It happens, the amount varies but it definitely happens.

In any case where the general public would expect a particular extension (E.g. .com or .com.au) and something else is used - there will be some traffic bleed.

The real question is: will it be a little or a lot?

I don't have the magic formula for you Rhythm, I can't give you a % of traffic bleed from a .net.au to a .com.au - as I'm sure you can appreciate every case will be different.

All I know is that traffic bleed does exist and there are plenty of examples that demonstrate this, some of which myself and others have referred to.

You're entitled to your own views as to whether traffic bleed exists, I'm not going to argue the matter till I'm blue in the face!

 

[Rhythm]

I was just explaining it to snoopy in case he missed it.

I know you went from 'a lot' to 'some' to 'little or a lot'

Like wise I threw in 'significant' somewhere along the line to denote this change.

I agree every case will be different, which is why I am hesitant to rely on testimony/hearsay/statistic and was hoping for something more quantifiable and scientifically reliable data.

 

[snoopy]

I agree every case will be different, which is why I am hesitant to rely on testimony/hearsay/statistic and was hoping for something more quantifiable and scientifically reliable data.

Can you describe exactly what you are expecting as examples of bleed? You say you don't want statistics, but you do want data. That doesn't make much sense to me.

I think you have made up your own mind and nothing will ever be enough for you to admit "Yes these names lose traffic to the .com.au". As demonoid said it will be a blue in the face argument.

 

[Rhythm]

Sure: Traffic data/stat from advertised .net.au's that own the twin .com.au - I have my own data, but for accuracy I'd need to run a sustained offline and online media campaign which isn't going to happen anytime soon.

My mind is not made up. Never is.

 

[findtim]

Sure: Traffic data/stat from advertised .net.au's that own the twin .com.au - I have my own data, but for accuracy I'd need to run a sustained offline and online media campaign which isn't going to happen anytime soon.

My mind is not made up. Never is.

we ALL look forward to the results

tim

 

[Rhythm]

we ALL look forward to the results

tim

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