Nominet proposes shorter .uk domains
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findtim
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yehhh horshack, i thought that at first but i actually read a lot of the thread posts last night .
here's where i have to put that disclaimer in that "i'm an auda director and these words are my own and not that of auda's !"
so my thoughts were that this was the start of so many threads as this thread started in 2012 and then direct reg for .au slowly became a topic, i found it interesting to go back and read peoples opinions which led me onto other threads and which were the ones that eventually led me back in 2016 to want to spend a lot of my time being a director of auda so we could get it right.
all this history should not be forgotten, but what i think is important is we stop talking about the same stuff over and over again, we have so much more information now, lets get down to the truth, has it worked for uk/nz ? what do the numbers really say, what is happening today?
so history is good, but present is better.
tim
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chronology
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.NZ has failed. They will try FREE soon also to pump up the registration numbers on paper.
"It appears that some registrants, having exercised their preferential registration rights, have subsequently let the shorter version of their name drop. ”
https://www.dnc.org.nz/sites/default/files/2016-08/Domain Name Commission – Annual Report – .pdf
"It appears that some registrants, having exercised their preferential registration rights, have subsequently let the shorter version of their name drop. ”
https://www.dnc.org.nz/sites/default/files/2016-08/Domain Name Commission – Annual Report – .pdf
Déjà vu?
Some here against .au can't even generate original arguments so let's just plagiarise
https://econsultancy.com/blog/63407-seven-reasons-why-uk-domains-are-a-bad-idea
Some here against .au can't even generate original arguments so let's just plagiarise
https://econsultancy.com/blog/63407-seven-reasons-why-uk-domains-are-a-bad-idea
Andrew Wright
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findtim
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i'd be interested to read your reasons for making that statement, honestly and not taking the p*ss.
tim
No immediate motivation/incentive to switch from .co.uk
Meanwhile... Onslaught of gtlds
findtim
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interesting, are you suggesting the longer you give people to act the less they desire?
so thats relating to the exact timing of the large "first wave" of ntld's, which isn't presently happening.
Lemon
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Most people wait for the last minute to do things in general. eg paying bills, registering for events, renewing domains.
It's not about desire it's just human nature to procrastinate.
the longer you give people to act the longer the action will take
gtlds will always be happening, there will be a second wave, it's getting worse for .com and too long cctlds
Only now they're going mainstream
Google is already ranking them, I did a search for horse racing yesterday and there were .horse and.racing on page 1 !!!
WordPress has already launched blog as a service on .blog domains eg news.blog fashion.blog
DomainNames
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It is fairly obvious some people wanted to push in another .au extension for their own commercial gain, they have admitted another .au extension will cause damage and devalue the existing .au namespace plus hurt the reputation of it. This in fact is against the auDA Constitution and Government letter of endorsement of auDA management of the .au name space. It is grounds for Government to replace auDA Management with another manager or for Commonwealth to do it themselves how they want ( Including via statutory authority etc...).
The UK model shows the facts very well and so does the .nz model. They failed no matter the time period given for uptake.
Supply and admin bodies quickly realised the more time people had to find out out it and do some research the higher likelihood they would not pay the extra money or do it. It also can cause damage for their SEO of existing name etc to actually use it if they have existing names in use.
Ad to this we now know Ausregistry did not win the new wholesale contract so they will not be making the massive commercial financial gains they may have hoped for or promoted to investors about.
https://www.ausregistry.com.au/product-innovation-will-produce-the-next-3-million-au-domains/
Add to this we have people at Melbourne IT Group apparently telling people they are getting out of the domain name business within the next 2 years.. Maybe why they want to push it in fast, get more registrations and then sell out?
This sums it up pretty well!
The UK model shows the facts very well and so does the .nz model. They failed no matter the time period given for uptake.
Supply and admin bodies quickly realised the more time people had to find out out it and do some research the higher likelihood they would not pay the extra money or do it. It also can cause damage for their SEO of existing name etc to actually use it if they have existing names in use.
Ad to this we now know Ausregistry did not win the new wholesale contract so they will not be making the massive commercial financial gains they may have hoped for or promoted to investors about.
https://www.ausregistry.com.au/product-innovation-will-produce-the-next-3-million-au-domains/
Add to this we have people at Melbourne IT Group apparently telling people they are getting out of the domain name business within the next 2 years.. Maybe why they want to push it in fast, get more registrations and then sell out?
This sums it up pretty well!
They gave registrants far too long to think about it so with no urgency people have just sat back to see what everyone else is doing and this has meant that the name space hasn't performed to date. We won't know for sure until the reserve period ends next year but the negative press from the low registration numbers to date has probably sewn enough seed of doubt that it's doomed now. They shouldn't have given anymore than 6 months.
findtim
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(edit, forgot quote)
when i was on https://www.acorndomains.co.uk/ a while ago ( and it may still be the case) most domains were for sale "with rights to the .uk" but it hadn't been purchased.
so we could assume " why pay until you have to" which is lemons comment.
so could we also assume " i don't want to pay " ? then in 2019 we finally get the defensive reg's ?
if thats the case in the uk is it showing that the small take up over 5 years is blocking new reg of .uk? and when the time runs out and millions of names reserved don't get paid for and get opened up that we see the real desire for .uk BY NEW people into the market?
leaving us with "then and only then" can we establish the desire for a .uk as that will of course be a landrush event.
tim
findtim
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rhythm, you liked my post, its ALWAYS been a thing with me that we like a post and then you wonder WHICH part did you like or did you like it all !
also sometimes i like a portion and not the other.
so which part or all did you like? because i'm sorry it was a long post ....like i do
tim
also sometimes i like a portion and not the other.
so which part or all did you like? because i'm sorry it was a long post ....like i do
tim
findtim
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so i'm wondering who thinks that given we have seen the 5 yr "wait till the last minute" effect as mentioned by lemon, should we also look to wait and see the defensive reg spike effect in .uk ? which would logically be followed by the land rush effect.
it should be a fun thing to see the results, why jump into a muddy creek before someone else does?
tim
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