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Radix publishes second time renewal data for some TLDs

Discussion in 'Domain News' started by Rhythm, Nov 21, 2017.

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Food?

  1. Burger

  2. Pizza

  3. Halal Snack Pack

  4. Wrap

  5. Fruits and Vegetables

  6. Ice cream

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  1. Rhythm

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    Z, Food? is not really a question. Can I suggest you rework the question a little so we have an idea of what you are trying to say.
     
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    These are really bad numbers because they are the "old names" names grabbed early on that have already gone through a previous delete cycle. If you lose 20% of those legacy names each year you eventually lose a huge % of supposedly "the best" names.

    .80 x .80 x .80 x .80 x .80....... = a very small number of names being kept.

    Where does that leave the renewal rate on the "not the best names"?

    Hint: They won't disclose it because it will look so bad.

    This shows how people "call it quits" at different points. Some throw in the towel after 1 year, some 2 years, some 10 years, but clearly they are throwing in the towel in big numbers.
     
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    I had a pizza on Monday night, does that count?
     
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    For what it is worth I voted for Pizza also.
     
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  6. snoopy

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    Here is a chart of Radix's registrations. As far as I know they don't really do the free/chinese/1 cent stuff but you can see despite this the growth engine has basically been turned off,

    Screen Shot 2017-11-22 at 2.58.40 pm.png

    Worth noting also 6.7% of registrations are currently in upcoming delete. The only major registries higher are Uniregistry and the people behind .top.
     
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    just like .com renewals?
     
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    I'm not looking to get in on this debate, if you like nTLDs - then good luck to you! However, the figures above are for .com and .net. I think .com on its own would have better stats.
     
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    On its own, .com growth for that period was 1.3% by my calculations:
    June 2017: 129.2 million .com domains
    June 2016: 127.5 million .com domains​

    Here's an article from David Goldstein with the figures:
    http://www.domainpulse.com/2017/09/15/global-domain-name-growth-a-crawl-second-quarter/
     
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    Old .com names, the best names do not have a 20% drop rate. When "the best" ntld names are already at the rate it is a very bad sign, the tide is going out and sounds to me like you are in a state of denial.

    The overall ntld market is shrinking quickly.
     
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    Those aren't the 'best' gtlds.
    They're all almost as bad as .com

    Makes perfect sense to compare renewal rates of an entire market of a few .gtlds to a now worthless but allegedly premium selection of archaic and meaningless .com domains
     
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    I don't need to, I know what it will look like. Chinese investors driving up the market, Chinese investors leaving the market - it's not rocket science to work out the impact on the market!
     
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    Why did they leave?
    Where did all the Chinese investors go?
     
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    They went chasing crypto coins
     
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    I think that is normal in established tld's. Those radix's stats though are not fresh registrations, they are the first names registered and now are being dropped at 20% every year.

    Most ntlds are far worse which is why overall ntld registrations are shrinking fast.
     
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    For new reges they are, some of it is domainers, some business that don't last long etc.

    The problem you have though with your argument is that .com is still growing whilst ntlds overall are already shrinking within 2-3 years of launch.

    What does it say for a new product when it market share starts to shrink soon after release?