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snoopy

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These are really bad numbers because they are the "old names" names grabbed early on that have already gone through a previous delete cycle. If you lose 20% of those legacy names each year you eventually lose a huge % of supposedly "the best" names.

.80 x .80 x .80 x .80 x .80....... = a very small number of names being kept.

Where does that leave the renewal rate on the "not the best names"?

Hint: They won't disclose it because it will look so bad.

This shows how people "call it quits" at different points. Some throw in the towel after 1 year, some 2 years, some 10 years, but clearly they are throwing in the towel in big numbers.
 

snoopy

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Here is a chart of Radix's registrations. As far as I know they don't really do the free/chinese/1 cent stuff but you can see despite this the growth engine has basically been turned off,

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Worth noting also 6.7% of registrations are currently in upcoming delete. The only major registries higher are Uniregistry and the people behind .top.
 

Rhythm

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eBranding.com.au

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I'm not looking to get in on this debate, if you like nTLDs - then good luck to you! However, the figures above are for .com and .net. I think .com on its own would have better stats.
On its own, .com growth for that period was 1.3% by my calculations:
June 2017: 129.2 million .com domains
June 2016: 127.5 million .com domains​

Here's an article from David Goldstein with the figures:
http://www.domainpulse.com/2017/09/15/global-domain-name-growth-a-crawl-second-quarter/
 

snoopy

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just like .com renewals?

Old .com names, the best names do not have a 20% drop rate. When "the best" ntld names are already at the rate it is a very bad sign, the tide is going out and sounds to me like you are in a state of denial.

The overall ntld market is shrinking quickly.
 

Rhythm

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Those aren't the 'best' gtlds.
They're all almost as bad as .com

Makes perfect sense to compare renewal rates of an entire market of a few .gtlds to a now worthless but allegedly premium selection of archaic and meaningless .com domains
 

snoopy

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.com, .net renewals are worse
Much much worse

Verisign:
“But historically, our first-time renewal rate has been 50%.”

https://www.thedomains.com/2016/02/...igh-non-renewal-rates-from-chinese-investors/

I think that is normal in established tld's. Those radix's stats though are not fresh registrations, they are the first names registered and now are being dropped at 20% every year.

Most ntlds are far worse which is why overall ntld registrations are shrinking fast.
 

snoopy

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I'm glad you've established that .com/.net renewals are normally that bad.

It'll get worse as businesses eventually figure out they'd rather pay more for a better looking and sounding and linking gtld than a mediocre meaningless .com domain

Google has already figured it out

https://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/10/02/use-this-link-to-reverse-search-google-images-on-your-phone/

For new reges they are, some of it is domainers, some business that don't last long etc.

The problem you have though with your argument is that .com is still growing whilst ntlds overall are already shrinking within 2-3 years of launch.

What does it say for a new product when it market share starts to shrink soon after release?
 

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