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Dropped cold on Netfleet

Discussion in 'Netfleet.com.au' started by Kaiser77, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. neddy

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    Except if you have a store and have 30 day listings. ;)

    I do understand what you and Mark are saying, but nobody seems to be addressing the point that I'm upset about!

    i.e. the disparity in the statements.
    The second statement I can live with if it happens very rarely. But I can't accept this first statement - nor should any buyer.

    "Sorry, I didn't really want to sell it...no deal".

    So which statement is correct?
     
  2. DavidL

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    Yeah that's a poor attitude. So he really did say that 'word for word', Kaiser77?
     
  3. domainlover

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    I would be interested to know who this is, as this same excuse was used on me previously and then the seller offered the name to me for $250 more than the buy now price.
     
  4. johno69

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    I sense poetic licence in effect.
     
  5. neddy

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    Did you complain to Netfleet at the time Angelo?

    Johno69 aka the Darth Vader of domaining:

    "I sense a disturbance in the Force". :D
     
  6. FirstPageResults

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    This seems like a good idea, particularly if it's coupled with more stringent registrant screening (which I think Anthony said was in the pipeline at one stage).

    Just out of curiosity, there are domains listed on Netfleet that I've purchased directly but haven't been removed by the seller. What's the normal protocol here?
     
  7. Mark

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    Yes it is a good idea. We will shortly be validating every account with every domain, and any unconfirmed domains will be deleted. We will be using the registrant information from the registry so we can guarantee ownership. Any changes in registrant information will also trigger a removal from Netfleet.

    Pls ping us an email with details and we will remove for you
     
  8. Chris.C

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    Definitely sucks.

    Even if action isn't taken against this individual in pursuit of the domain the buyer should have the right to notify the rest of the community of this sellers lack of integrity via some ebay style sellers rep mechanism.

    At least that way the seller has the decision to either sell the domain and keep his reputation and change his business operations so mistakes don't happen again or he can tell the buyer to jam it and he can lose his reputation as a result.

    I think it would also help to know when you are offering to buy a domain if that domain owner is someone who is actively buying and selling domains or is they are the register and hope the BIG pay day that is never coming type of domain owner (I hate wasting my time with the later).

    Not to mention that it would also be nice to see that a buyer actually has a history of parting with money to buy a domain (I hate wasting time with people that don't understand domains and also don't want to part with their money when it comes to business time).

    Yeah that sounds dodgy...

    This actually happened to me the other day!

    :eek:

    I have previously sold some domains via the NF AMA which were completed a couple of months ago. Anyway I got an offer on one of them (for about twice what I sold it for - of course... :p) but then I realised "oh shit NF doesn't even automatically remove listings it sells via it's AMA" worst thing was that I also had a target price on the domain as well that the buyer wasn't a HUGE amount away from luckily I was able to remove the listing along with the other domains I have sold via the NF AMA.

    So NF you might want to do a quick check of all the domains sold via your AMA to make sure they are not still listed (at least not listed by the original seller).

    Good idea, though I'd think even a shorter time frame could be appropriate - maybe every 6 or even every 3 months owners should have to reconfirm.

    I think this would also help buyers to know that all the domains on the site are ACTIVELY being sold. I know in the past I have placed bids that just expire - and part of me wonders if the owner even got the email...

    :cool:
     
  9. Kaiser77

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    Hi David,
    My comments are more about the dismissive attitude which is disinterested and cold. It has no element whatsoever of reparation or mediation, rather, it's my problem now as he has washed his hands of the matter altogether whilst blaming a naughty staff member for mischieviously listing the domain on his business' behalf.

    Back to the issue at hand...

    I accepted an offer only to discover that it wasn't real. Interestingly, had I bid $100k for it and he accepted my bid, is it ok for me to turn around and say "sorry about that, I've changed my mind...".

    I could then dream up a story about how it was someone else's fault and case closed.

    Still p!ssed off and without the domain.

    K77.
     
  10. neddy

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    K77, what has happened isn't right, and it is in breach of Netfleet's stated marketplace rules. The $100k analogy you give is a good one.

    But it is a fact that at the moment there are listings on NF that haven't been tended to in ages by their owners. And problems can and do occur on these. NF realise this is a problem, which is why they are taking steps to get the whole system sorted out. This can only be good news.

    I went in to bat for you on the basis of your initial post i.e. the statement you allege was made: "Sorry, I didn't really want to sell it...no deal". If those words were said, then you deserve to be backed up by everyone including NF.

    However, the onus is on you to substantiate that comment though - I'm sure you can appreciate that. Otherwise NF quite rightly have to make a decision on the facts before them (reputation of parties, how old the listing was, could it have been an oversight or error etc).
     
  11. DnEbook

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    logged on to netfleet, search in bargain basement, top of the list BusinessSmall.com.au : target price $200 ........latest offer $210 ??
     
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    ...sorry, I meant to renew that domain but the staff member who was responsible for renewing it completely forgot! Can I have it back?...

    Maybe not exactly comparing apples with apples, but we usually learn from our mistakes based on the consequences.
     
  13. DavidL

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    No one is suggesting it's OK - it isn't but is probably a product of the market rather than any deliberate shennanigans. I mean, why would someone do that - what's their motivation to do that?

    Look I can't speak for NF as i don't work there anymore but I know they will have tried their best to try and find a solution just like they did last time but if you still aren't satisfied I'm sure they will give you a full refund.
     
  14. GGroup

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    Hehe... ouch.
     
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    @Kaiser77 - disappointing on many fronts. I'm sorry for you. Could you give more details?