Where did AUDA come from?

[DomainNames]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.au_Domain_Administration

and how auda policy is slowly catching up to the world of being an open market with less red tape and overly restrictive rules " Free enterprise"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/the-coming-dot-au-property-boom/2008/02/26/1203788290820.html

 

[jockp]

How long do you reckon it will be until it is totally deregulated ??

I think then prices again will jump in value

 

[DomainNames]

if you email them and make submissions you can help it get deregulated.

If you get all your contacts to ask it be dergulated it might help to get auda to understand they need to get with the times and get their restrictions lifted like they are in most other domain extensions.

http://www.auda.org.au/news-archive/auda-26112010/

Anyone should be allowed to register and sell a domain name whenever they want to whoever they want . They can with .com names so why not here in Australia?

If you own a car or house dont you want the right to be able to sell it if you want... or dont you want tyhe right to buy any car or house you want?

 

[Max]

""Anyone should be allowed to register and sell a domain name whenever they want to whoever they want . They can with .com names so why not here in Australia?

If you own a car or house dont you want the right to be able to sell it if you want... or dont you want tyhe right to buy any car or house you want?""

Not everybody in Australia wants a deregulated .com.au market .. AUDA wasn't set up just to accommodate the wants of domain name dealers in the AU space .com.au has come a long way in the past couple of Years towards freeing up the market and making registration/transfer easier for most ...

There are are many Countries where the TLD is restricted .US .CA .GR just to name a few and not to forget .EU they all require citizenship or an active business presence ...

 

[ant]

Anyone should be allowed to register and sell a domain name whenever they want to whoever they want . They can with .com names so why not here in Australia?

.au is a country specific code, whereas .com is "for everyone" so the comparison is not equal. I think that the auDA restrictions actually add value to domain names and that total deregulation is not the way forward. That said the limitations against gambling and adult content are defiantly affecting the value of those domain names and is leading to local money being spent abroad. It is pointless lobbying auDA in this respect since they are not the regulating body.

If you own a car or house dont you want the right to be able to sell it if you want... or dont you want tyhe right to buy any car or house you want?

In Australia a foreigner needs to apply for specific permission to invest in Australia in order to buy a house.
http://www.firb.gov.au/content/real_estate/real_estate.asp

Coupled with this you don't actually "own" a domain name, you do hold the license to use if for a period of time, and you have a right to renew it. In this respect it is more akin to renting a house with an indefinite lease, hence why you have restricted rights relating to selling your lease.

 

[Oz.]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/the-coming-dot-au-property-boom/2008/02/26/1203788290820.html

Interesting article with some interesting sales figures at the bottom, eg:

• Trustytradesperson.net.au $US5000 - wow, so much - if you can believe it. I paid much less for my 1 word .com.au domain in the same niche. Plus Trustytradesperson.net.au is now sitting available "No Data Found"
• Debtconsolidator.com.au EUR10,000 - Cha-ching. Again, can't believe it fetched so much.

And

Her modelling agency business, Supermodel, already has a well-established website at supermodel.com.au, so she figures she'll make an easy $10,000 from the .net equivalent.

Still not sold 3 years later.

 

[brettf]

if you email them and make submissions you can help it get deregulated.

That's sort of right. The panels make some proposals, they do take into account the public submissions but these then all go back to the auDA board for approval anyway. And auDA have rejected panel proposals previously which kind of makes the panel process a bit of a waste of time.

So if you want change to happen:

a) Get involved in the panels

b) Make public submissions and encourage anyone with an interest to do the same

c) Become a member of auDA

d) Vote in a board who have any type of commercial common sense, as opposed to the position for life members sitting there now

 

[Cooper Mills DomainLawyer]

As Brett said if you want change get involved, don't forget to get your submissions into the auDA Panel's current review, the info you need is HERE

 

[DomainNames]

""Anyone should be allowed to register and sell a domain name whenever they want to whoever they want . They can with .com names so why not here in Australia?

If you own a car or house dont you want the right to be able to sell it if you want... or dont you want tyhe right to buy any car or house you want?""

Not everybody in Australia wants a deregulated .com.au market .. AUDA wasn't set up just to accommodate the wants of domain name dealers in the AU space .com.au has come a long way in the past couple of Years towards freeing up the market and making registration/transfer easier for most ...

There are are many Countries where the TLD is restricted .US .CA .GR just to name a few and not to forget .EU they all require citizenship or an active business presence ...

Yes this is an example of whats been wrong with Australia domain rules , AUDA, Melbourne IT ....and why things have been so backward in Australian Policy kept that way by people who have hidden interests in it staying the same way.


years ago in Australia before people complained loudly enough these where the rules
1. One domain name only was allowed by company or Business and it had to be an exact match of your registered business name, company or trademark. Example you owned Ajax Computer Workshop Sydney.. you could not register Ajax.com.au or AjaxWorkshop.com.au etc.. it had to be the exact business, company or trademark name or a shortened version only of it

2. $140 domain cost ( + the ongoing cost of your added business name registration, trademark or Company registration costs that was required)

3. Not allowed sell domain name

4. No one word generic names allowed to be registered at all. ALL one word and some two word generic words where reserved by AUDA ( who later changed the rule and auctioned them by themself for profit themselves when they realised their mistake but learnt of the generic names true value... years after the USA .com market of course in 2002!)

5. 1 company to buy domain names from only Melbourne IT. No competition at all

6. AUDA's original reason for not allowing sale was that " no one owns a domain name they are leased from Auda so you cant sell them" this mistake by AUDA was later overturned by them and hence names can now be sold.

The historical story here shows you how things are slowly changing for the better it seems http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/the-coming-dot-au-property-boom/2008/02/26/1203788290820.html

 

[DomainNames]

That's sort of right. The panels make some proposals, they do take into account the public submissions but these then all go back to the auDA board for approval anyway. And auDA have rejected panel proposals previously which kind of makes the panel process a bit of a waste of time.

So if you want change to happen:

a) Get involved in the panels

b) Make public submissions and encourage anyone with an interest to do the same

c) Become a member of auDA

d) Vote in a board who have any type of commercial common sense, as opposed to the position for life members sitting there now

Agreed. Good old post worthy of a bumpy while the current PRP is underway calling on submissions.

 

[DomainNames]

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Coupled with this you don't actually "own" a domain name, you do hold the license to use if for a period of time, and you have a right to renew it. In this respect it is more akin to renting a house with an indefinite lease, hence why you have restricted rights relating to selling your lease.

auDA called people DOMAIN NAME OWNERS

 

[DomainShield]

auDA called people DOMAIN NAME OWNERS

In my opinion auDA made a mistake on their website which I believe they have now corrected (to err is human and to forgive is divine).
It has always been a tricky line to follow, on one side we want to talk to customers in a language they can relate to and on the other side we have to keep the legal agreements in tact. All registrants have to click a box to agree to the "terms and conditions" of registering a domain name. Those documents never refer to owners on any auDA accredited registrars website nor in the auDA policy itself.

 

[DomainNames]

In my opinion auDA made a mistake on their website which I believe they have now corrected (to err is human and to forgive is divine).
It has always been a tricky line to follow, on one side we want to talk to customers in a language they can relate to and on the other side we have to keep the legal agreements in tact. All registrants have to click a box to agree to the "terms and conditions" of registering a domain name. Those documents never refer to owners on any auDA accredited registrars website nor in the auDA policy itself.

Mistake for over 17 years in their materials and website etc? I doubt it.

How much have they paid their lawyers, staff and management over the years to make such a blunder?

If it is not such a big thing why change it at all suddenly now after the Sydney PRP meeting?

 

[DomainShield]

Mistake for over 17 years in their materials and website etc? I doubt it.

How much have they paid their lawyers, staff and management over the years to make such a blunder?

If it is not such a big thing why change it at all suddenly now after the Sydney PRP meeting?

17 years is an exaggeration, the current site was redesigned in late 2013, so only been 5 years
auDA is a complaints driven organisation... guess no one complained until now