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Domainer.com.au and Drop.com.au

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Andrew Wright, May 2, 2019.

  1. neddy

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    David, you're sounding like a politician now - trying to wedge me for things I supposedly agree with. ;)

    I do not agree with your statement.


    Nor am I your enemy (on the contrary) - I am simply bitterly disappointed by events which I believe have impugned the integrity of the drop system. It's a pity that Jono did not give his version of events (I invited him to) - that may have helped clear things up. I note that he was "lurking" on this forum for most of yesterday, so he obviously is an interested party.

    The machinery is in motion for an investigation into "the incident", so let's see where that ends up. It's probably not appropriate to comment further until that has been done.

    Ned
     
  2. Data Glasses

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    Hey Freds back!
     
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  3. Scott.L

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    David, why would it be important to single out a domain with bids? It’s a “bug” manually programmed by you to exploit the domain from dropping on the day, it has nothing to do with bids on your platform.

    In fact, what you proved to every watching was how easy it was for a 3rd party to run off with the loot, leaving your customers bidding on a fake drop auction. Accordingly, it calls into question the arms length dealing between each related entity, and whether or not not you have other undisclosed agreements with other registrars for registry connections.

    Now whilst it's unfortunate for you to be at the epicenter of criticism about an event that you claim was beyond your control - you can't deny or shrug off the controversy you caused by proxy of you enabling this situation to occur in the first place.

    In light of this event, My question to auDA would be; If terrific is licensed by auDA as a drop catcher and shares connections with other drop catchers, then why didn't auDA disclosed it to the public? Because, what we now see is a new drop catcher closed off from the public with the capacity and technology to catch names for themselves to the exclusion of all others.
     
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  4. Scott.L

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    David, can you answer the question. Do you believe Jonathan Horne is acting as a shadow director of Terrific?
     
  5. Lucky

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    Don't think you're going to get an answer. If Drop didn't play funny buggers, then the spotlight falls on Jonathan Horne doesn't it? Means. Motive. Opportunity are the important considerations.
     
  6. Scott.L

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    I agree Lucky, albeit, auDA should have known that these guys were sharing a registry connection. However, their agreement was not disclosed on auDA website like all other agreements to share connections. So, it's fair to ask David whether he knew Jono was an officeholder authorised to act on behalf of terrific, because a written agreement between them and the registry should have been undertaken before it could proceed. As for motive, it's apparent that one cause was to catch his own domain to the exclusion of others, another to intentionally delay valuable domains from the market.

    Meanwhile, we have both drop platforms with blind bidding and it's unknown whether we should trust the bids, or their third party agreements to share registry connections.
     
  7. Scott.L

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    These shenanigans about glue records and undocumented registry sharing connections have been known for months, what did the Security and Risk Committee do about it?

    Suzie Ewart (Chair)
    Joe Manariti
    James Deck
    Nigel Phair
    Damian Smith

    What's the point of this committee if it doesn't properly evaluate the security & risks presented to it. They can't play dumb, it was known and ignored. Now look what happened.

    Accountability and transparency, all these committees should have their minutes published.
     
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  8. Lucky

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    What's up with Land.com.au? Still showing Anthony Peake from Domain Shield as registrant, and a whole lot of server prohibitions. More funny buggers?