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Whats REALLY happening in DOT UK ?

Discussion in 'General Domain Discussion' started by findtim, May 29, 2016.

  1. findtim

    findtim Membership: VIP

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    i thought it would be interesting to find out whats really happening over there now its been a while since it started.
    it would be great if someone was keen to do the same as a thread for NZ ?
    i think getting away from stats and actually asking domainers should bring the truth "on the ground"
    so i kicked open my acorndomains.co.uk account ( note the .co.uk ) , did an intro again because its been ages and went for a lurk to read what people were saying, pretty much all i saw was domains for sale saying "with .uk rights "
    anyway10 minutes after my intro i get a PM, a guy wanting to sell me visitmelb............co.uk WITH .uk rights.
    so i took the opportunity to ask some questions, firstly i told him the truth that i was just there to see how .uk was going because of the .au thingy here and asked him "hows it going?"
    here is his reply: as ned would say "bolding is mine"
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    No worries about visitmelb...........co.uk.
    Regarding co.uk and .uk names, the shorter.uk was introduced in 2014. Anyone who already owned the equivalent co.uk domain name has 5 years exclusive rights to register the .uk extensions as well. Then in 2019 anyone can register those. So if you own the co.uk, no point registering the .uk until 2019 as extra renewal costs and .uk isn't that well known by public yet. That could change closer to 2019 of course.
    So anyone who just owns a co.uk domain name but not the .uk has either sold the just .uk (that won't happen often) or it has been registered after 2014 (so unless it was a good name accidentally dropped, maybe not such a good name in the first place, otherwise why not registered by someone previously?).
    If you buy a .co.uk now, buy the.uk as well.
    So if someone offer you a .co.uk domain name, make sure the .uk is included. Maybe .uk will be the more valuable one in 5-10 years time.
    Hope that helps a little.
    T****
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    so forget the spin, this is what is really happening, no registrations but protecting the name for 5 years, then being FORCED into defensive rego fees by the fact they will give an opportunity to someone else and their .co.uk becomes worthless.
    now he was just 1, i am sure if i asked that every day i'd get the same answer regardless of it being a domain investor or a business.

    so considering all i have heard from the yes voters is they prefer the uk model, basically as i have said before, "give them 5 years to forget and then we get the win fall, we can wait "

    can others add real life examples? he says some obvious stuff like why rego now ( which leads to no promotion and no growth ) and if he wants a domain it HAS to be both,

    tim
     
  2. eg73

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    I've not read too much more on .uk in the news after the initial hype of direct .uk registrations. It certainly will be interesting to see how many & which businesses will start purchasing the matching .uk name when the 5 year period expires.

    I hope a few uk domainers/businesses could come to the table & contribute to this thread & give their opinions..
     
  3. findtim

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    photoman thast a good idea, maybe as i meet some good ones i could invite them in, i'll check with chris first.
    it would be FANTASTIC to have a thread where we had access to a few uk domainers bonusing things around.
    i'm going to concerntrate on .uk for now, i do hope someone will do a NZ thread, after all these are the 2 countries everyone is talking about so how about we get to the truth.
    tim
     
  4. Horshack

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    The final date for registering reserved .nz names is just around the corner so the response should give you some indication on how holders see the future of that namespace. On another note I noticed welcome.co.nz on the sedo marketplace auctions for $5500 USD which seems alot. The registrants of the co.nz and .nz versions appear to be different so I assume the .nz holder is chasing the .co.nz version so it's all a bit backwards.
     
  5. findtim

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    sounds like " pay my price or anybody can have it"
    another potential threat for us.
    tim
     
  6. chris

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    Agree - that would be terrible!!
     
  7. findtim

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    thanks ned for pointing out a article he wrote on the subject last year
    http://www.domainer.com.au/trials-and-tribulations-of-uk/
    it definately worth a read which highlight flaws that were still implemented after 2 other attemps.
    lets start with the positives: people power made a difference, the .co.uk got the .uk, the price was altered down.
    for some reason it just stinks of a dishonest PLAN, lets make verson 1 horrible, then come down a bit in versio 2 then give the version 3 as by then they will agree ! so the end result actually was the goal, charge people for something they didn't ask for.

    so if something is to come of this australia is starting where uk ended, and time has given us a chance to see and evaluate amny factors.
    the obvious one is not imforming people, auda know this sucks but are still trying ti on !!! having a grandfather clause BIG WHOOP you still end up paying.
    i haven't read the other links in the article but certainly will.
    tim