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WebSiteDesigns3D - will sites like this be in demand ?

Discussion in 'Web Development' started by shags38, Jul 18, 2010.

  1. shags38

    shags38 Membership: Community

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    As time goes by you will all get to realize I am a 3D enthusiast :D It remains to be seen if it takes off like I think it will - some say I am barking up the wrong tree but hey, I reckon there is a cat in that tree ;)

    3D Computers will be on shelves next year - some smaller specialist manufacturers are already in production - the big names are gearing up.

    Would you agree or not with the following?

    So as 3D Computers do become available and the market matures that means 3D Web Site content will be in demand, especially by sites with content like games, movies, sports and pretty much any video content currently on their sites and that includes many corporate sites - everyone will want to be first ahead of their competitors.

    It then follows that customers will begin searching for website designers who can produce 3D content professionally. If I was such a customer I would (as well as contacting whoever did my site in the first place, given that I stiil think they did a good job and have subsequently look after my site diligently) - I would do a search for .... let's see .... maybe something along the lines of 3Dwebsitedesigns or 3Dwebdesigns or websites3D or
    3Dwebdesigners or similar - and if you had the need you might also right?

    So any thoughts on the value of such names - I have more as well - they are all .com.au and as well I have them in .com

    If you have mates in the website design business maybe run this past them for their opinion also.

    I look forward to your comments.

    cheers,
    Mike
     
  2. FirstPageResults

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    When these websites come, people will search for it.. just like they search for 'flash websites', 'ecommerce websites' etc
     
  3. WG2010

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    I don't see anyone switching to 3D websites or watching 3D TV anytime soon. The uptake of it is really small and consumers just aren't interested. http://bit.ly/coDYsN is a good read about 3d tv's in Japan = no interest.

    Having said that, I think the 3D printing industry is going to be huge within time as it's more than just a gimmick, it has real applications.

    People are already using them for various things but I imagine a day where you will be able to purchase 3d blueprints online, download them and print yourself a pair of nikes, a toaster, maybe even a computer. That's decades away though.

    Of course, this is just my opinion and that counts for very little in my experience :)
     
  4. shags38

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    Retailers are struggling to get stocks of 3DTV's - they sell what they get straight away = no interest :)
     
  5. DavidL

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    Sound logic, shags! Future value of those domains is just hanging on whether it does indeed really take off into the mainstream or not.

    If it does you're a millionaire, if it doesn't, you've probably wasted about $20K. Or maybe there's a middle ground too...
     
  6. snoopy

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    I have no idea if 3d websites will particularly be in demand but if they are I think the number of domains related to it that will really be worth anything will be very limited. Take a look at the number of sales in other technology areas, 3g, voip etc, it is low compared to the number of domains speculators register. Domainers get all excited about these new technology names but rarely do the sales happen.

    Even then the window for names like this (and all technology names) is limited.

    "Colour tv" turned into "tv",

    "Stereo tv" turned into "tv" as well just like "hd tv" is turning into "tv" right before our eyes.

    "cd" has gone the way of "mp3", and the term "mp3" is just becoming "music". Technology terms rarely last.

    If you think 3d websites will become very popular won't everyone be designing for them, won't they become expected?

    Stuff like websitedesign3d though has keywords around the wrong way. If it was available in .com then registering it in .com.au (where values are far lower) was likely a mistake. If you search for stuff and everything is available then you are probably on the wrong path.
     
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  7. Shaun

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    How can you argue with these points? Well done Snoopy.
     
  8. shags38

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    lol - a snoopy fan. Yes I can see your point however I am in the business of selling the domains, not keeping them so if 3D does take off and even if the 3D component of a name eventually fades into the background why would I care - if (more like when rather than if 3D takes off) then 3D consumer product names domains, the reasonable to good ones, will sell.

    I think you are right - for a few years it will be "3D Movies" but then when 3D becomes the norm it will just be Movies.

    I often smile at comments like - the domain keywords are backwards - see, using your logic Snoopy which I have said I agree with then people will be searching for website designs - right? the fact it is tacked with 3d on the end is neither here nor there - the exact name is already taken. It so happens I do have the name both ways, and also in dot com (registered about 2 weeks ago and already have inquiries ex the USA).

    I also smile at those that suggest that bookend domains are not worth anything, or of very little value - if 3D takes off and two entities have 3dcomputers.com and computers3d.com would not 3dcomputers3d.com be the next best as far as being product descriptive?

    Anyway, we will see in time I suppose.

    cheers,
    Mike
     
  9. FirstPageResults

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    Agree that their will be a window period.. not sure about the bookends - I'd rather a 3rd keyword like 'cheap' or 'best' etc
     
  10. Timmy

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    Someone's gotta be first? :)
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  11. djuqa

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    3d sites WILL be BIG business
     
  12. Honan

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    Lets cut to the chase
    Is there anyone on this forum who would buy one or more of Mike's 3D domain names?
     
  13. snoopy

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    Because the average domain, even very high quality domains, take decades to gravitate to a buyer who really wants to use it.

    Very few people will pay a premium price for domains with keywords around the wrong way. Something like "3d website design" makes sense (I'm not saying it is valuable but it makes sense grammatically). "Website designs 3d" doesn't make sense. When you say "tacked on" that is the right word to describe it.

    Not a chance. Why would anyone pay above reg fee for something like 3dcomputers3d.com? There will probably be 10,000 better choices. Even computers3d.com sounds a clunky name to me.

    Have you ever seen one of these so called "bookend" names sell?
     
  14. djuqa

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    No!
    Already have the best 3d name
     
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    Hello everybody :)

    Big believer and investor in 3d Domain Names.
    I believe that 3d technology will completely alter the web as we know it, thus bringing in complete demand for 3d websites and an overall 3d Web.

    Never before has such a new* technology been applied to SO MANY industries before, whether it's the obvious movies and games, or the medical industry or printing... the amount of ways are seemingly endless.

    This does NOT mean that a '3d' web site can be applied to just any ole term ro any highly searched keyword... there is practicality that need be applied and of course, as a domainer, an end-user who would WANT that name.

    The biggest argument about 3d domain names being 'useless', 'stupid' or a 'waste of money', and believe me when i tell you - i have been fighting this fight for a while now with the 'Naysayers' and it gets ugly!!

    3d is just a FAD - very hard to be a fad when the biggest companies in the world are dedicating BBBBBIllions of dollars to the advancement of 3d in their own niche. Not only that, '3d' is also attached to Holograms, holographics, cad, Augmented Reality..etc.. call it a precursor of things to come, but the term '3d', whether mis-marketed or not, is STILL the calling name for these niches.

    Soon, everything will be '3d' and thus standardized - keep in mind - as excited as i am about 3d technology benig spread around, there are still plenty of people who physically can NOT see '3d' - Stereoscopic 3d, that is.... not EVERYTHING will always actually BE in 3d or wanted to be seen in '3d' (think of the 'News' for example or the elderly)... PLUS.. the TV's come WITH a 2D and 3D switch, making '3D' necesary.

    All the GOOD 3d names were taken YEARS ago - this one just absolutely KILLS me... yes, it is true, 3dtv has been taken for about a decade already, and 3d games since 2001.. etc... yes, those are THE BIG names .. but that does NOT mean that there are not any GOOD 3d names left to grab or that all other 3d names are useless... this is JUST NOT TRUE ... it might be a lot more true as of today, at the moment of this post, but that's because a bunch of us have been scouring the web for names and researching topics and products and services that are either here or are ABOUT to be here within the year (or two)... not to mention, i don't know about the rest of you all, but i can appreciate any scale of money .. i don't need nor require a six or seven figure
    sale to feel i have made a good investment or a great ROI.

    No one is going to want to switch their website name to a 3d one - understood, and for the most part this IS true... FOX SPORTS, for example, will probably only have a 'section' of their website dedicated to their 3d content...as will all other MAJOR companies and manufacturers..
    ... but the web doesn't end there and there are hundreds of new startups EVERY DAY.. there are even a nice handful of businesses that are contemplating a major change for their company and this could be that change...
    introducing something 'new' the masses takes time to be incorporated.. adapted and accepted... but eventually, they are.

    I have lots of research to show and tell and share and bare.. so i will do my best to help educate some of ones on the fence on this topic..

    .. the naysayers?.. not too much we can with them.. they are too far gone, have enough anger and ire towards the '3d' field that it will be near impossible to persuade them either way... that's fine though .. everyone has the right to their own opinion

    .. i'm just not a fan of the trolls that stick their heads in form time to time and call us stupid for even considering a 3d name.

    This is my first post here on DN TRADE..
    i look forward to making this thread one of the most interesting and compelling arguments around.

    Thanks for having me all
    I look forward to your responses :)
     
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  16. apex

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    3d domains are set to make a lot of domainers very happy,look at recent sales of some that are not even properly out there yet
     
  17. DavidL

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    If you're choosing a domain based on seo, it pays to check the search volumes. Sometimes what appears 'backwards' may actually work quite well in search. Often people tack on a clarifier after the main search target.

    eg whilst "Sydney Photographers" might seem more logical and is certainly more brandable, I bet there's a reasonable number of people who plug in 'photographers' and then as an afterthought add 'sydney' on the end. I know I do that.

    In that case, you may well be able to target that exact match and have a fraction of the competition. Just my thoughts anyway :)

    EDIT - just saw page 2 of this post

    I also hate the 'all the good names are taken' argument! People have been saying it for years about all different parts of the industry. The thing is, if there is growth in an area, all the domains will rise in value. 'A rising tide lifts ALL boat's as someone said to me recently. So the valuable domains become really valuable, the marginal domains become valuable and the worthless domains become valuable. You can make just as much money in the lower tiers of the value scale.
     
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  18. Honan

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    How many 3d names have you sold?
     
  19. snoopy

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    Some names will be forever worthless so matter how popular the niche becomes. The domain market generally is not kind when poorly researched choices are made, it isn't like some other markets where you can make a bad choice and still make money (eg property).
     
  20. snoopy

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    Firstly who is going to search for "website designs 3d"? How is it a logical search query?

    Secondly with the photographers example you'll have a website with a confusing domain name. ie one that sounds like a search query not a web address. Who is going to buy it?

    Some stats,

    Exact match searches,

    sydney photographers - 590 searches monthly
    photographers sydney - 1000 searches monthly

    sydneyphotographers.com.au - Taken
    photographerssydney.com.au - Available
     
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