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Poker.com.au sells for 100K!

Discussion in 'General Domain Discussion' started by daddybat, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. daddybat

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    Just saw this on a FB feed. UFB deal for the buyer of this gem IMHO.....

    BTW - Poker.ca sold recently for 400K only a few months ago!
     
  2. Mark

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    Regulation on gambling sites in Australia devalues it considerably. If lifted though - absolute bargain...
     
  3. Shane

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    That's quite an impressive figure! Not huge on a global scale, but great for an AU domain.
     
  4. daddybat

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    Link please? I didn't know about this....

    I was in Bondi last week - let's meetup next time I'm in!
     
  5. Mark

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  6. Bacon Farmer

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    The current whois details look dodgy as.
     
  7. James

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  8. DomainNames

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    I wish I knew poker.com.au was going for such a low price. I would have paid more for it and I know lots of others who have paid more also.

    They sold it way too low!
     
  9. DavidL

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    I'm guessing it's that 888 mob sponsoring Warnie - http://au.888.com/

    Funny despite the $1.1m/day fine they seem to do OK in Australia!!!

    Remember it is very much illegal to even advertise third party poker rooms in Australia. Plus against Adsense TOS so perhaps hard to make a decent return.
     
  10. DomainNames

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    Hi David, why is it illegal and who controls it and will punish poker.com.au? cant they simply get around the rules by " advertising" a poker banner to their offshore website and " offshore" business?

    I think they will be hard up closing it down if poker.com.au and 888 set it up legally correctly ?
     
  11. DavidL

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    Well 888.com seem to have been flirting the rules for ages. Apparently they have been reported to the police on numerous occasions but the police have not acted.

    Even advertising overseas based interactive gambling is within the legislation.

    Personally I think it's crazy. Doesn't stop people gambling - they just go to o/s sites. That means the government lose 100's of millions in tax revenue and are unable to regulate (ie help problem gamblers). The productivity commission recommended that the legislation be changed to allow local sites for these reasons but to the surprise of most the Gov rejected it.
     
  12. James

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    But why would they want to use adsense in the first place, they would use poker affiliates.

    And isnt the rule you can target non Aussies ie people who are not citizens can use the poker website, people who are tourists.
     
  13. Max

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    poker.com.au is now a live site .. looks to have been aquired using the recent changes to the AUDA policy relating to trade mark holders having rights to register AU domain names ... there is no actual Australian connection involved with this registration except perhaps the registar being an accredited AU registrar ? ... Registrar Name Safenames Ltd

    Poker TM .. where .. what Country ? Poker.com applied for a US TM years ago the may have it dunno .. cant be bothered checking the USPTO data base .. when they applied it was for their full URL poker.com ..

    Without the recent open rule changes 888 could not have aquired this name without using an Australian proxy .. this is the first major use that i have seen of a TM being used for a domain transfer/registration ..

    The name was sold by Moniker.com/Snapnames in an unpublized manner .. nobody knew about it .. well nearly nobody

    Moniker usually have a domain transfered to themselves as the name holder before a deal/sale/escrow can be completed is Moniker AU accredited as well ?

    This sale is a big deal for AU domains .. i looked up Pokerstars.com.au this is also a TM registered domain ..

    The outside World is taking notice of .com.au
     
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  14. Bacon Farmer

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    The trademark number quoted refers to an image that does not relate in any way to poker.

    How this allows them to register a domain beats me. I'd love someone to explain it to me.
     
  15. DomainNames

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    I have been in the domain industry for 12 years. I have never seen it this hot in Australia and this is finally due to the AUDA policies catching up with the rest of the world.

    My question is this... if auda policy was not so red tape and restrictive how much better would australi's online business be.. I think we would have seen much more massive growth of online industries... instead we just seem to follow american online ideas etc by 5 years etc

    I hope auda now realises their past over restrictive mistakes and changes their policy even more to open up the industry for the benefit of the Australian economy. Without the heavy government regulations poker.com.au should have been a Million domain name and could have earnt Australia a fortune in taxes... Thus Australians and our economy loses out again.
     
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  16. Max

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    Poker.com.au ownership/title could be questioned .. the reg does look dodgy ..
     
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    Regarding gambling restrictions... A simple offshore company and Mexico host would do the trick - not like it hasn't been going on for the last 15 years anyways...

    Gambling restrictions or no - there's always more than one way to skin a hooker.
     
  18. Oz.

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    Haha the TM was for:
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    PERSON,SILHOUETTE WITH FINGER POINTED BESIDE BALL
     
  19. DavidL

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    It's within the rules. An overseas company with a TM in Australia (any TM) can then register any domain they want. They just use that number where we would use an ABN and satsify the other eligibility criteria.

    This method is probably the lowest hurdle for an o/s company to register a domain (the other is get an ARBN)

    "The law applies to all interactive gambling operators whether they are Australian or foreign owned or whether they are based in Australia or offshore"

    Also doing what poker.ca does would breach legislation too (online poker is banned in Canada too) because it's against the Act to even advertise other sites to Australians.

    However saying that, I doubt au.888.com are being fined $1.1M/day. Or if they are, it's a seriously lucrative website LOL

    Some news on the sale:

    http://www.smartcompany.com.au/info...ys-price-reduced-by-online-gambling-laws.html
     
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