thanks ned for that link and i actually did read it fully, ish
demonoid i also read yours and its a good read you put a lot of effort into it and overall very sound advice an opinions in my view.
my comments below i will be submitting, but for now an overview.
The approach taken should reflect the realities of the market, with .au reserved for the .com.au registrant in the first instance. If the term is not registered in .com.au, then the .au domain should be reserved for the .net.au registrant.
.com.au is the first preference for individuals and business entities and is the dominant 2LD in use in Australia by a significant margin, which is why it should be given first preference for reservation.
i think sums it up, very clear as opposed to the NZ system of:
“Conflicted status” means the domain name has been registered to different registrants in at least two second levels, and so the .nz equivalent will be unavailable for registration until the conflict isresolved. Parties are encouraged to resolve the conflict privately between themselves, or the .nz Domain Name Commission offers a free mediation service. There is no timeframe for conflict resolution; the domain name simply remains unavailable until the conflict is resolved.
(taken from the auda paper )
NO CLASH :
Domain names that were registered before 23.59hrs on 28 October 2013 have rights to the
equivalent new .uk domain, provided there was no other corresponding co.uk, org.uk, me.uk, ltd.uk,plc.uk or net.uk registered.Where there are two or more domain names that are the same, the co.uk will be offered the .uk equivalent. Where there is no co.uk, the org.uk will be offered the new .uk equivalent. Where there is no co.uk or org.uk, the me.uk will be offered the new .uk equivalent.
All co.uk domains registered after 28 October 2013 and before 10 June 2014 will also have rights to the .uk equivalent, as long as there is no ‘clash’ with any existing domains meeting the criteria above.
far to loose a term for me, it will end up in legals.
Other forms of evidence of demand that the Panel is looking at include the number of back-orders that registrars receive for different kinds of domains, as that is an indication of the number of people who want to register a name that is already taken and therefore might be willing to register that same name in a new space.
evidence? how is that evidence, and why would those people be allowed to register the .au in front of the .com.au owner? one thing that wasn't mention or i didn't see was DATES of registrations, cut off dates etc, i was surprised this hasn't been addressed from the start even if only a mythical date as an example. What i mean by this is that because we have a large drop catching culture a date could adversely affect any change if change is decided.
On the other hand, it has been suggested that much of the demand would be for defensive
registrations by existing registrants who feel compelled to protect their name – the Panel notes that currently, the majority of .uk direct registrations are held by the registrant of the matching co.uk
defensive, yes, FORCED to defend would be a better term
The Panel is aware that widespread defensive registrations would undermine the benefits of
introducing direct registrations – not only would it be costly and inconvenient for existing
registrants, and would also limit the availability of names to prospective new registrants.
COSTLY, yes, a huge financial burden on small business, the .com.au and the new .au need to be "married" as 1 fee.
The regulatory framework in .au may explain why defensive registration is not practiced widely by Australian registrants – eg. the majority of com.au registrants have not registered the matching net.au name, and to date there has been low take-up of .melbourne and .sydney names by registrants of .au names
what a load of crap, .net.au never took off and we all know that so get over it, .melbourne stuff that, unless you can pay for florist.melbourne then its a waste of money, timsplumbing.melbourne sucks.
One registrar who offers registrations in hundreds of different TLDs has
advised that the average number of domain names in their retail customer accounts is
approximately 1.6, suggesting that the majority of registrants do not defensively register their name in multiple spaces.
and i live in melbourne but do not put up crocodile fences in my backyard so why would i bother with a .net.au
4.7 Security and stability
this is bound to happen, just look at
http://aunz.net/ , doesn't mean anyone is going to actually opt in.
what happens with com.com.au ?
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i love the way EVERYONE avoids the elephant in the room which demonoid pointed out, THE COST to businesses, its all being presented as "we will give you a few years to decide.......... we will not let anyone else register it.......... we will do nothing because eventually you are going to have to PAY US more money to have to domain extensions when really only 1 is needed "
--------- money grab ----------- and the only way to prove me and others wrong is to join the registrations " .com.au gets .au , no extra fees "
ONE big question i'd like to ask and that is , will a email/letter be sent to all 2.9 million domain name owners informing of a change, if there is a change, or will the average JOE have to find out himself ? somehow ? or just wake up one day and discover the guy down the road now owns his domain name shortened ?
bottom line for me if it needs to be done then go for it, but make sure no cost to present businesses.
tim
