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Active Company - Domain Expired

Discussion in 'Newbies' started by Snooks, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Snooks

    Snooks Membership: Community

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    Just doing some work and i realise now that quite a large company in my town has an issue.

    I dont know how, but they dont seem to realise that their domain name expired a month ago. They musnt have had a site operational which is surprising, or they would have noticed, but WHOIS indicates it certainly is them. I double and triple checked.

    The company is in a building probably worth $5 million dollars, so its not a small company by any means........

    Its gotta be worth my spending the few bucks to register it, surely? The name is an exact match, but also generic and an eg would be bigblackdog.com.au

    Anything i should know?
     
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  2. paz

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    Don't register in bad faith and don't profit off their trademark and you will be ok.

    And by don't i mean....don't get caught.
     
  3. neddy

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    Yes - you need to be careful what you say in forums. It can come back and bite you on the arse. ;)

    I have deleted one paragraph from your post. I have only done this to try and keep you out of trouble.

    http://www.auda.org.au/policies/auda-2008-05/
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  4. Snooks

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    @Admin

    Thank you, i see the wording removed. I appreciate your thinking of me :)

    I gotta learn that we arent talking in a small group, given its indexed by search engines:(

    I guess that since i wish to have the name for a site making models of big black dogs, with appropriate content, that the pub down the road, which is coincidently called "The Big Black Dog", cant really complain.

    See ya point:)
     
  5. Nova

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    Just remember that the domain will go to drop sites in due course and may be picked up by somebody else if it's a half decent name.

    On a related note, a friend of mine did some work for a company and they were a completely web-based company (turning over mid 6 figures). They didn't even know their domain had expired and was dropping the next day. I noticed it in the list and let my friend know who then in turn let the company know. They had to pay nearly $1k to get their name back through a drop service! I still don't know how they let it expire and then left it for so long.
     
  6. Snooks

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    Is there any restriction on how soon you can sell or transfer a name, after you buy it?
     
  7. FirstPageResults

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    Only on new registrations/dropped names Snooks:

    4. PROHIBITION ON TRANSFER WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF REGISTRATION

    4.1 Under the Domain Name Eligibility and Allocation Policy Rules for Open 2LDs, a registrant may not register a domain name for the sole purpose of resale. To enforce this policy rule, a registrant is not permitted to transfer their domain name licence within the first six months after registration of the domain name. This prohibition applies to newly registered domain names only, and does not apply to renewed or transferred domain names.

    http://www.auda.org.au/policies/auda-2008-08/
     
  8. Snooks

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    Thanks FirstPage :) I knew i had seen something but couldnt quite find it .
     
  9. jhellyer

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    These rules only apply to .com.au domains is that not correct? It does not apply to .coms?
     
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    correct
     
  11. jhellyer

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    S*** that's good :)
     
  12. Snooks

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    So can you confirm if it applies to .net.au ?
     
  13. FirstPageResults

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    The policy is applicable to all open 2LDs (second level domains - letters after the name and before the .au)

    Open 2LDs:

    • asn.au
    • com.au
    • net.au
    • id.au
    • org.au

    http://www.auda.org.au/domains/au-domains/
     
  14. xwdomains

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    Some good advice thanks for letting us new to the .au market know

    can you sell a website that's less then 6months old if it's a .au or is this a no no?
     
  15. FirstPageResults

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    Rules still apply. Worth noting that you can apply to auDA for an exemption:

    4.2 A registrant may apply to auDA for authorisation to transfer their domain name licence within the first six months after registration of the domain name. Such authorisation will be at auDA’s discretion. Circumstances under which auDA may authorise a transfer include:

    a) where a competent arbitrator, tribunal, court or legislative body orders the registrant to transfer their domain name licence to the proposed new registrant, eg. in the case of a proceeding under the .au Dispute Resolution Policy (auDRP); or

    b) where the registrant and the proposed new registrant are legal entities belonging to the same group of related entities, eg. where a parent company transfers its domain name licence to a subsidiary.

    http://www.auda.org.au/policies/auda-2008-08/


    You could still sell the website and transfer the domain after the 6 months is up ;)
     
  16. paz

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    Or sell the company that owns the domain I would assume