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The registry may or may not. It might not even be the same registry. There could be separate tenders for .au and the 2LDs. The .au domain could be free for 5 years... there are oodles of options. The registry can make lots of money if you're happy to let them. Anyway, nice try at trying to shift...

Yes, but in your ignorance you don't see that the .com.au rules won't be changed. So the French example does support my case.

Do I have to spoon feed the children here as well? The .se link shows that at least people registered the domains when they were free while they didn't register the .id.au domains when they weren't free. None of the evidence is anecdotal.

Oh gee. Where's Andrew Wright to chastise you? Oh. That's right. You're talking bollocks so it's OK. But of course, you could check the stats on the AFNIC website but then, that will only show I'm right. Or you could check the IIS website. Or you could check the DNC website stats which would...

Given that registrars don't make much money from selling domains but make money from add-on services such as hosting, it's not likely they will make money. Talk to one of the larger registrars and learn about their business. I'm not sure what demand you want to show. It doesn't show unmet...

Or given that Australians rank highly with registrations on .me and .co, I'd say they're going there...

The stats are on the AFNIC website for .fr and if you bothered to follow the link you would see that IIS provided stats for .se.

Of course I don't. Why should this be an issue? It's like the Republican referendum. People should have been asked do they want to become a republic or something similar - yes or no. Then the model should have been debated and decided. Unless you ask people do they want the change, or not and...

So in other words you're not interested in experiences around the world that could show the success. You want to stick with the system as is because it suits you. And as I've shown individuals do want to register domain names. The circumstances of each ccTLD are different of course, but the...

For .fr, I interviewed the AFNIC CEO in 2011 and he told me: "Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk about .FR and AFNIC. There are several factors which can explain this tremendous growth – nearly 30 per cent per year for the last five years. "Ever since individuals were allowed to...

Anyone who knows anything about domain names from the registry/registrar side of things in .au knows auDA is a client of mine and has been for over a decade. And this is my third Panel I've been on. Each time I have supported second level registrations, but this time probably due to changes with...

You have no idea how second level domains would be implemented, if it is recommended by the Panel as no model has been agreed on. If the Panel recommends second level registrations, then the Board will consider it and if the Board approves it the model will then be discussed. The Panel may make...

So no matter that international evidence shows you're wrong you'll keep peddling the snake oil...

You remind me of Colbert's description of George W. Bush: "what I like about the president is that he believes on Wednesday what he believed on Monday no matter what happened on Tuesday."

Anyway, now that I have debunked all your arguments for going against allowing second level registrations, what other excuses do you have for opposing them?

Meanwhile... members here keep up with the uninformed gibberish... and after all, I only joined in with language that fitted with what had already been used in next to all posts... as for me, I don't speak for the panel or auDA or anyone else. I look at what happens around the world and use that...

They're not eligible unless they have a constitution or are somehow incoporated. Read the rules.

I notice you're quite happy for the abuse of parties that are the "enemy" and the desire to rig consultations. Classy.

And of course, you're wrong. The local knitting group is quite likely not eligible for a .asn.au domain since the 2LD is for "incorporated associations, political parties, trade unions, sporting and special interest clubs."

Maybe a better name for this forum would be UKIP-AU. Because the comments and interest of what happens around the world, unless it suits the insular world inhabited by most here, is certainly xenophobic. Look at .fr and .se for starters and see there *is* interest from individuals. And in .nz...