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auDA request to High Court to delay SGM 2018

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We must have someone on the auDA Board who starts to look at the Consumer side of issues and represents that concern on the auDA Board more seriously. It has highlighted ion numerous Government documents to auDA as being a concern but auDA and Board seem to keep ignoring it.

1. What is the new wholesale price? Afilias won the contract with a 60% lower price than we have now.
2. What are auDA Markjeting funds and how are they paid out to Registrars?
3. What Registrars pass on the lower wholesale pricing?
4,. Is there some agreement or direction that Registrars will not pass on the lower wholesale price they can only use the money for "marketing"?
5. What is the truth about the 50% co marketing money? Should members and Consumers know about this?
6. FREE COR- Yes it is possible. Will it be live 1st July 2018?
7. auDA is supposed to be a "not for profit" yet they have over $20 million in the bank and their planned model has them making more profits. Why? This shows very poor mismanagement by auDA and the Board on the model and on all aspects of pricing and auDA expenses.
8. How long has this been going on and which Board Members are representing Consumers on this issue?
9. auDA should pass on the full 60% lower Afilias pricing to Registars and let the Registrars do what they want with it freely and not in any form of fixed "cartel" type manner act in in a manner which may stop them from passing it on to Resellers or .au domain name Consumers.
 
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IF auDA really claims to be Accountable and Transparent it is time auDA and the Board started acting this way.

By not telling the truth about pricing and the "marketing" funds is is a very clear major issue which will be further exposed.

If the current auDA management and Board cannot fix this I support their removal and replacement with people or another organisation than can do it better and without all of the problems and massive expenses / waste auDA and Board are themselves in many cases creating.

How much has auDA spent on avoidable legal expnses over the last 2 years? It is $ Million of dollars?

I call on auDA Board to demand a full costs assessment of all legal fees auDA have paid for the last 2 years and to seek tenders for additional legal providers to make sure auDA funds are in no way wasted and we also get legal providers.

https://www.supremecourt.vic.gov.au/law-and-practice/areas-of-the-court/costs-court
http://lsbc.vic.gov.au/?page_id=3077

IF auDA and Board have not being getting itemised legal bills and seeking costs assessment in my opinion they may have been negligent in their duties to minimise all auDA expenses.
 
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How much is auDA Management and Board paying and possibly wasting of auDA Funds on legal fights against it's past and present own staff, own Board members, own Members, Contractors or Suppliers?

Is poor management of the .au namespace and company by auDA and Board creating avoidable legal expenses?


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Bacon Farmer

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Apparently the $70,000 cost of the last SGM can be broken down to:

Venue hire and online services about $6k.

Director, auDA normal operating and legal costs make up the rest.

Oh dear that's one leg gone.
 

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Apparently the $70,000 cost of the last SGM can be broken down to:

Venue hire and online services about $6k.

Director, auDA normal operating and legal costs make up the rest.

Oh dear that's one leg gone.

auDA have made a claim it costs $70,000. Now tio be accountable and Transparent they must provide the itemised breakdown.

Is it B.S.? Did they make a false and misleading claim in their court documents and statements to misrepresent matters?

They must provide the breakdown and let's see the Legal costs and Director payments / auDA portion of it.
 

Bacon Farmer

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Thx, can you post it please..

..for some reason I think many people have their emails from auDA classed as "SPAM" automatically by email providers so people miss them....
You've got mail.

I'm not sure if it's privileged or confidential so do not wish to post it.
 

Jimboot

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Apparently the $70,000 cost of the last SGM can be broken down to:

Venue hire and online services about $6k.

Director, auDA normal operating and legal costs make up the rest.

Oh dear that's one leg gone.
I can't find $6k
 

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Did auDA Mangement and auDA Board seek a costs assessment from their legal providers billing?

Where is the itemised Price Waterhouse Coopers legal billing? auDA should provide it and make it available to the public and all stakeholders.

auDA Management and Board created the problems which led to the SGM and claimed costs. It shows poor management of the .au namespace , that auDA Management and Board are not "Fit For Purpose" and wastage by auDA and the Board of .au domain name registrant Consumer funds.

Also note auDA was wrong saying they did not need to provide public agendas and minutes. It is in fact a signed off agreed requirement they committed to meet with the Commonwealth from the start. This auDA Management and Board mistake cost a lot of money and wastage of auDA funds plus other party Funds including government and members.

Perhaps newer auDA Management, newer lawyers and newer Board members should have done more research of existing auDA documents and agreements they had to abide by including the compulsory making of accurate auDA Board meeting minutes available to the public within set time periods.

https://www.righttoknow.org.au/request/au_domain_administration_ltd_boa
 
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