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Old 07-10-10, 09:20 AM
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First, hello, lurker and now first time poster.

I noticed the top sales recently include

SexToys.com.au $25,500
SexShop.com.au $4,000

First, I'm surprised at the difference in pricing on the two above domains.

Then for these generic names the sale prices are listed as:

Stay.com.au $14,000
Surfing.com.au $4,000
Boxing.com.au $3,800
stuff.com.au $5,000


I recently became interested in a generic aussie domain name (undeveloped) and contacted the seller who has an asking price far in excess of the above generic names, yet the name I'm interested in I don't believe has anywhere the potential for income as the above generic names.

So finally, my questions:

Are many/most/any "direct" sales with services like fabulous achieving prices far in excess of the above or are they at a similar of lower price?

Are any sellers/buyers through fabulous (or even the service providers such as fabulous) willing to list what domain(s) they have sold/purchased and the price?
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Old 07-10-10, 09:30 AM
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I recently became interested in a generic aussie domain name (undeveloped) and contacted the seller who has an asking price far in excess of the above generic names...
Don't be put off by the asking price. Negotiate and you'll be pleasantly surprised. My last 2 domains were purchased for 1/10th of the asking price.

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Old 07-10-10, 09:33 AM
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Welcome justme.

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SexToys.com.au $25,500
SexShop.com.au $4,000

First, I'm surprised at the difference in pricing on the two above domains.
There is a big difference in quality between these two names.

Firstly, the amount of local monthly searches for "sex toys" is roughly 3 times greater than "sex shop".

Secondly, "sex toys" has greater potential for phrase searches. (e.g. "latex sex toys")

And thirdly, sex toys is dealing with a specific niche of the sex industry and therefor should convert better than a broad term like sex shop.
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Old 07-10-10, 10:03 AM
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Welcome justme.



There is a big difference in quality between these two names.

Firstly, the amount of local monthly searches for "sex toys" is roughly 3 times greater than "sex shop".

Secondly, "sex toys" has greater potential for phrase searches. (e.g. "latex sex toys")

And thirdly, sex toys is dealing with a specific niche of the sex industry and therefor should convert better than a broad term like sex shop.
Agree, sextoys.com.au sounds like a much better money maker.
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Old 07-10-10, 10:26 AM
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Hi Justme,

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Are many/most/any "direct" sales with services like fabulous achieving prices far in excess of the above or are they at a similar of lower price?
With the exception of the Drop.com.au Secondary Market Auctions, Fabulous.com does not currently offer a third party domain sales solution... yet.
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Are any sellers/buyers through fabulous (or even the service providers such as fabulous) willing to list what domain(s) they have sold/purchased and the price?
You can view Expired Domain and Secondary Market Auction results at https://www.drop.com.au/auction/history/.

Cheers

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Old 07-10-10, 11:05 AM
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Are any sellers/buyers through fabulous (or even the service providers such as fabulous) willing to list what domain(s) they have sold/purchased and the price?
We maintain a free historical database of domain sales at Domainer Income. To our knowledge its the largest publically available database going back several years.

Hope you find what you are looking for.
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Old 07-10-10, 11:54 AM
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Hi Justme,


With the exception of the Drop.com.au Secondary Market Auctions, Fabulous.com does not currently offer a third party domain sales solution... yet.

You can view Expired Domain and Secondary Market Auction results at https://www.drop.com.au/auction/history/.

Cheers

Andrew
Maybe I haven't described it correctly.

On an Australian domain name that I'm interested in, the site appears monetised by fabulous and on the base of the page it states:

"Fabulous.com THIS DOMAIN IS FOR SALE domainname.com.au BUY NOW Offer"

Based on the above, I assume Fabulous are the 3rd party acting on behalf of the domain owner, so I'm still curious about my original questions in my first post of sales between the domain owner/fabulous as the intermediatery and the buyer:

Are many/most/any "direct" sales with services like fabulous achieving prices far in excess of the above or are they at a similar of lower price?

Are any sellers/buyers through fabulous (or even the service providers such as fabulous) willing to list what domain(s) they have sold/purchased and the price?
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Old 07-10-10, 12:15 PM
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Hi Justme,

Okay, I can see what the issue is

We offer a contact form and a for sale banner as an added value service for Fabulous.com domain monetisation customers. The contacts are forwarded directly to the domain owner and we do not get involved in any subsequent negotiation, nor charge a commission.

It's easy to get the above confused with domains listed for sale via our Domain Distribution Network (our domain sales platform), as the 'for sale' banners are the same, but instead of a form the visitor gets taken to FabulousDomains to complete their transaction.

Hope that clears things up.


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Old 07-10-10, 12:49 PM
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You can view Expired Domain and Secondary Market Auction results at https://www.drop.com.au/auction/history/.
Hey Andrew, sorry it's off topic, but what's the date range for the historic data Expired Domain Sales?
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Old 07-10-10, 01:06 PM
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Hi Justme,

Okay, I can see what the issue is

We offer a contact form and a for sale banner as an added value service for Fabulous.com domain monetisation customers. The contacts are forwarded directly to the domain owner and we do not get involved in any subsequent negotiation, nor charge a commission.

It's easy to get the above confused with domains listed for sale via our Domain Distribution Network (our domain sales platform), as the 'for sale' banners are the same, but instead of a form the visitor gets taken to FabulousDomains to complete their transaction.

Hope that clears things up.


Andrew
Hi Andrew


does clear it up thank you.

From your experience, then as I'm sure you must get some feedback from sellers that have benefited from selling via your contact form, how does selling direct compare versus via DDN?

Basically I'm trying to gauge if the sales price being asked is realistic as based on the recent sales of generic names published, the asking price is around 4 to 5 times higher than those. My heart instinctively tells me I want it, but logically so far based on the evidence of .com.au generic names, it seems overpriced. However, if private, direct sales are (often) much higher (or much lower) than the published auction sales, it helps in the decision making, or to make a more realistic offer.
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