DN Trade
Domain Names

Go Back   DN Trade > Community > Introductions
VentraIP
Register FAQ Members List Domain Registrar Pricing Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 17-09-10, 09:12 AM
James's Avatar
James James is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,211
Default

Hi All,

I could argue all day about this stuff, but if you host your website in another country and your user base is in Australia you are going to run into problems because it is going to load slower some times 2 or 3 times slower, load time has a effect on organic rankings.

Watch this video form Matt Cutts he even states this stuff -

http://searchengineland.com/site-spe...g-factor-29793

A live example of this where two .com.au domains with AU user bases -



But any one is welcome to test their own theories.
__________________
Check out my sites: Sydney SEO and Social Media|SEO Australia |Professional SEO |Life Insurance Cover |
Backlinks
For Professional SEO and Social Media Consulting from a well known local consultant, Linkbuilding and more email: contact(at)professionalseo.com.au (Say you are from DNTrade, too be looked after!)
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 17-09-10, 09:52 AM
snoopy's Avatar
snoopy snoopy is offline
Verified User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,240
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by James View Post
Hi All,

I could argue all day about this stuff, but if you host your website in another country and your user base is in Australia you are going to run into problems because it is going to load slower some times 2 or 3 times slower, load time has a effect on organic rankings.

Watch this video form Matt Cutts he even states this stuff -

http://searchengineland.com/site-spe...g-factor-29793

A live example of this where two .com.au domains with AU user bases -


But any one is welcome to test their own theories.
I think that is a definite issue but then you need to balance that against the reliability of the Australian host and the increased cost of hosting here. I guess people can do their own speed test on their current hosts.

Regarding Google's opinion of site speed, is google even doing speed tests from australian servers, or are they using US based servers to do those tests? If the tests are being done from the US it might work against you to host here - everything else being equal.
__________________
Net.au - Trusted by The Goulburn Railway Bowling Club and other leading businesses. Menu now online! Sunday Special: $9.90 MEAL DEAL - STEAK or SCHNITZEL with CHIP & SALAD or VEGETABLES + A FREE OF "BRUER BRIGHT" BEER.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 17-09-10, 11:07 AM
Nova Nova is offline
Verified User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 169
Default

Personally, I've always found locally hosted sites ranking better than those housed OS. By simply moving a site from OS to local, some sites moved from being ranked nowhere to first page.

It should also be mentioned that Google isn't the only search engine remember Whilst G definitely has the market share, SEO goes across multiple engines so without a discussion on the ranking algorithms of the other major search engines is not really complete.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 17-09-10, 12:11 PM
DavidL DavidL is online now
Verified User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,968
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snoopy View Post
Regarding Google's opinion of site speed, is google even doing speed tests from australian servers, or are they using US based servers to do those tests? If the tests are being done from the US it might work against you to host here - everything else being equal.
Now that really would throw the cat amongst the pigeons!

Just one other thing when comparing site speed, you need to look at the size of the page too. In the above example, the virgin blue homepage is much bigger than Jetstar. Jetstar does load quicker but not by much:

#
Domain name Size Load Time Average Speed per KB

1 jetstar.com.au 46.39 KB 2.18 seconds 0.05 seconds

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2 virginblue.com.au 64.25 KB 4 seconds 0.06 seconds


** from http://www.iwebtool.com
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 17-09-10, 12:57 PM
djuqa's Avatar
djuqa djuqa is offline
Verified User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 581
Default

All this "Aussie vs US " hosting discussion assumes all your traffic is coming from AUSTRALIA.

Most of my .com.au and .net.au sites (Indeed all my sites) get BULK of their traffic from USA/Asia hence US hosting.

Stop being so parochial and remember that the INTERNET is GLOBAL.
__________________
Managing Million Dollar Sites since 2004
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 17-09-10, 01:17 PM
snoopy's Avatar
snoopy snoopy is offline
Verified User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,240
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djuqa View Post
All this "Aussie vs US " hosting discussion assumes all your traffic is coming from AUSTRALIA.

Most of my .com.au and .net.au sites (Indeed all my sites) get BULK of their traffic from USA/Asia hence US hosting.

Stop being so parochial and remember that the INTERNET is GLOBAL.
It has nothing to do with being patriarchal, most people with .com.au sites would have almost all of their traffic coming from Australia.

If most of your .com.au sites get traffic from outside of Australia how does it make sense to using .com.au anyway? Surely this is going to cause confusion, issues with search engines and generally work against you? I don't quite get it unless they are travel related or something where the people are looking for sites relating to Australia.
__________________
Net.au - Trusted by The Goulburn Railway Bowling Club and other leading businesses. Menu now online! Sunday Special: $9.90 MEAL DEAL - STEAK or SCHNITZEL with CHIP & SALAD or VEGETABLES + A FREE OF "BRUER BRIGHT" BEER.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 17-09-10, 01:23 PM
Bacon Farmer Bacon Farmer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 199
Default

Yeah but where do they rank?

For the keyword Airlines;

In Google.com.sg

Virgin Blue 72
Jetstar 39

In Google.com.au

Virgin Blue 1
Jetstar 3

What might be significantly more relevant is the nationality of the traffic (the people Google are actually trying to service). Which would explain the rankings because Jetstar flies out of Singapore but Virgin Blue doesn't. Bottom line being hosted overseas doesn't stop you being number 1. C'mon do you really think Google can't figure this simple issue out.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 17-09-10, 01:26 PM
DavidL DavidL is online now
Verified User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,968
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djuqa View Post
All this "Aussie vs US " hosting discussion assumes all your traffic is coming from AUSTRALIA.

Most of my .com.au and .net.au sites (Indeed all my sites) get BULK of their traffic from USA/Asia hence US hosting.

Stop being so parochial and remember that the INTERNET is GLOBAL.
95% of traffic to my .au sites is Australian. Naturally wouldn't say no to some O/S traffic but I don't really rank for it (except images).
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 17-09-10, 02:58 PM
FirstPageResults's Avatar
FirstPageResults FirstPageResults is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,209
Default

I get more O/S traffic in certain verticals.. USA is a bit volatile but traffic from India keeps on coming

Although I must admit, for some of these sites a fair porton of the international traffic comes from google searches looking for the undeveloped/parked exampledomain.com equivalents
__________________
Index > Rank > Monetise
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time now is 06:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Forum SEO by Zoints
Hosted by VentrIP