Netfleet premium domain lists?

snoopy · #1 18-08-10, 11:56 AM

Some very strange additions in the newsletter that has just gone out,

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"windows7.net.au - Target Price: $2950.00 AUD

Windows Latest and Greatest Operating system. . Do you see the potential here? . Reviews? Tips and Tricks? Forums? Reseller? . Premium Domain Take Advantage Now... "

ebay.net.au - Target Price: $5000.00 AUD
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Surely these are just AUDA deletion bait?

djuqa · #2 18-08-10, 12:22 PM

I was just thinking the same!

Netfleet does not need the adverse reactions from selling these type of names.

hadhad · #3 18-08-10, 12:23 PM

Billy01 · #4 18-08-10, 12:29 PM

you take the advertisers cash??????????????????????

Oooppsss

Drop.com.au · #5 18-08-10, 12:29 PM

Interesting read on this topic:

http://www.circleid.com/posts/google...domains_icann/

George

davids · #6 18-08-10, 01:17 PM

Was a very interesting read indeed, George! Was well worth the time spent reading it

DavidL · #7 18-08-10, 01:31 PM

Hi Guys,

Let me ask you all a few questions.

Do you think we should have not allowed the registrants of these domains to have listed them?
Do you think the registrars should not have allowed the registrants to register them?
Do you think if they were to drop, they should be withheld from any official or unofficial drop lists?
Do you think auDA should delete them immediately?

I strongly feel that the answer to all these questions is no! Whether a domain is a trademark infringement or not is a complicated area and generally solved by a fairly lengthy independent process involving legal experts (WIPO).

We don't pretend to have the knowledge or expertise to decide whether a domain is infringing or not and, consequently, choose not to vet domains for listing on Netfleet. I think to do otherwise would open up a can or worms.

Note: auDA would not delete these domains as far as I know. I think generally potentially TM-infringing domains will be only deleted out of hand if they are on the misspellings list or fall into the monetisation policy... Is that right George?

Re that link George and Google's approach with TM terms and Adwords, it's something that frustrates me in my other business (selling cars) as they don't allow advertisers to use TM terms in their campaigns in Australia (unlike most of the rest of the world)

It means that although I may want to sell a Holden Commodore, I literally can't advertise on Google because I can't trigger ads for search terms that include 'holden'!

Thanks for the feedback

David

spacey · #8 18-08-10, 01:49 PM

i must admit when i saw ebay ...... i thought could ebay sue netfleet ?

i would try and avoid such names being listed , once i had a notice from sedo in regards to a complaint of a trademark holder and they delisted my name

of course we all wish netfleet ongoing success

DavidL · #9 18-08-10, 01:56 PM

Yeah spacey - parking companies seem to be the exception in the domain world. Many do try to police TM infringing domains. They probably get it right most of the time but I bet they do get into huge arguments with domain owners at times because it is rarely black & white.

snoopy · #10 18-08-10, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netfleet

Hi Guys,

Let me ask you all a few questions.

Do you think we should have not allowed the registrants of these domains to have listed them?
Do you think the registrars should not have allowed the registrants to register them?
Do you think if they were to drop, they should be withheld from any official or unofficial drop lists?
Do you think auDA should delete them immediately?

I strongly feel that the answer to all these questions is no! Whether a domain is a trademark infringement or not is a complicated area and generally solved by a fairly lengthy independent process involving legal experts (WIPO).

Now I'm not against people registering TM names, people can make their own choices, I just find it baffling why an email like that would go out.

I see it as a bit of an embarrassment for the industry, even though it probably says a lot about the industry. Regardless of whether it is a paid placement the names are labeled premium names and we are told they will "go quick" and are "great names". So whether you are unsure what a trademark infringement is you are basically endorsing these names. Calling these great names is a bit like a real estate agent selling a flat in Redfern and calling it Australia's finest suburb.

Having said that what sort of person can be unsure whether ebay.net.au infringes a trademark? That isn't complicated at all. Everyone here knows it, the guy who registered it likely knows it, netfleet who has a lot of experience in the domain industry is not sure?

It would be comparable to a parking company advertising that they have a whole lot of TM names are on their system....now that might just be being honest but it is a major credibility drain. Or how about if Netregistry gave some examples of names recently registered by clients, and the examples were google***.com.au, xbox****.com.au.

The email is pretty strange in my opinion.

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