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Old 08-02-12, 02:43 PM
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I hasn't sold at $780 (smut.com.au) so obviously it is not worth that, but it has an offer from a well known member here of $500 + cor and another offer on netfleet of $275 (one month ago).

Perhaps the own of sexyass.com.au should put it up for sale and see what actual offers it actually brings in? Personally I don't think it will bring in any.

You ask me why? I think it is the difference between a domain that is valued on the fact that it is well known one word term as opposed to a domain that would be valued based on search metrics (but doesn't have the right numbers to make it viable). One is the kind of domain that went a decade ago, the other the kind of name still available today.
GA show that less people look up smut then sexy ass wouldn't it be more realistic since sexyass is a 2 word keyphrase domain not a one word domain that if smut as you said has had a $500 then a keyphrase adult domain with more search volume would be worth at least 50% of a one word adult domain

so it would be worth at least $250

personally I would turn either one into an adult site smut I would turn in to a tube site and get some sponsors and flip it in 3 months time

and sexy ass I would turn into a photo rating site however I am not into building adult sites anymore so both are worth nothing to me. On GFY
I think both would get a decent offer netfleet is probably not the best place to find and adult domain buyers.

FYI I would list smut ask for X,XXX or more on GFY where adult domain buyers hang out with a good budget.

or contact the .com owner and work out a deal.

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Old 08-02-12, 02:54 PM
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I've just read Snoopy's reply, and as both a buyer and seller, I would have to agree that smut.com.au is much more saleable
than a two word combo containing the word "ass". Imho.

It's 4 letters; a dictionary word; brandable etc - and it's also far more "useable".
If it was her ass my ass his ass I would agree.
The fact is it is sexy ass which has more search volume then smut I mean who even looks up smut anymore?

I think both domains are sale able and smut is worth more but that's not the issue.
I am asking why one adult domain is worth nothing and another worth at least $500.

That's like saying 2 houses side by side one has a pool and 3 bedrooms and one has the same bedrooms no pool is worth nothing although the neighbors just sold for xxxxxxxxx
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Old 08-02-12, 04:20 PM
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GA show that less people look up smut then sexy ass wouldn't it be more realistic since sexyass is a 2 word keyphrase domain not a one word domain that if smut as you said has had a $500 then a keyphrase adult domain with more search volume would be worth at least 50% of a one word adult domain

so it would be worth at least $250
It is easy enough to make an argument that something "would be worth" a certain amount and much harder to achieve that. Smut.com.au isn't worth what it is because of search metrics in my view, so why would you compare it to a another name based on search metrics?

Not that I am talking up this name, because frankly it has probably cost $250 to hold it for the last 10 years, that isn't factoring time value of that money either, so I don't think it would have been profitable.

Look through the drop lists and names way more viable in terms of metrics than sexyass.com.au can be had in low 3 figures. These are names that went many years ago.
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Old 08-02-12, 05:10 PM
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Not that I am talking up this name, because frankly it has probably cost $250 to hold it for the last 10 years, that isn't factoring time value of that money either, so I don't think it would have been profitable.
I admire the consistency of your pessimism. Most people can't help valuing their own names higher than other peoples' (me included) but you talk them all down equally. Good job!
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It is easy enough to make an argument that something "would be worth" a certain amount and much harder to achieve that. Smut.com.au isn't worth what it is because of search metrics in my view, so why would you compare it to a another name based on search metrics?

Not that I am talking up this name, because frankly it has probably cost $250 to hold it for the last 10 years, that isn't factoring time value of that money either, so I don't think it would have been profitable.

Look through the drop lists and names way more viable in terms of metrics than sexyass.com.au can be had in low 3 figures. These are names that went many years ago.
Your saying it's worth $0 but you have just pointed out that it's worth something it would be reasonable to say that it would be worth at least $100 on the netfleet aftermarket I would think.

Honestly your shooting yourself in the foot selling so cheap and devaluing other .au names. I am sure you would know that some domains have sold for 7 figures sure they are .com however some .au have had some pretty good offers and if the .com owner can afford it you could also lease it to the owner.

I first come here after buying a 3 letter .com.au to check out the values in .au and what the market thinks I have seen many of your post saying com.au is worth nothing at least one of those domains sold for a few hundred if I had listen to your posts I would of stopped buying .au names altogether.

Many of your posts say .au are worth $0 if you believed this you wouldn't of bought any .au or be on a .au forum and taken the first offer for smut.

I am sure you have been around long enough to know what offers the .com version has had.

http://www.dnforum.com/f77/leasing-o...ead-32803.html

I agree that sexyass is worth less then a one word generic domain however it is worth something to the right buyer or developed.

Go put smut on GFY and get some really money for it.
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Old 08-02-12, 05:48 PM
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whers abhi? he started all this !
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Old 08-02-12, 07:10 PM
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Your saying it's worth $0 but you have just pointed out that it's worth something it would be reasonable to say that it would be worth at least $100 on the netfleet aftermarket I would think.
Don't follow this, I'm saying the name is worthless, far better names sell for $100 in my view. This is the type of names that wouldn't get a bid I think.

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Honestly your shooting yourself in the foot selling so cheap and devaluing other .au names.
If it is so cheap perhaps you should buy it?

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I am sure you would know that some domains have sold for 7 figures sure they are .com however some .au have had some pretty good offers and if the .com owner can afford it you could also lease it to the owner.
Next you'll be telling us about the $20 million house in Toorak then comparing it to a house in Frankston. Let's talk about .com.au, that is what this is. Completely different market to .com

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I have seen many of your post saying com.au is worth nothing at least one of those domains sold for a few hundred if I had listen to your posts I would of stopped buying .au names altogether.
That is not what I am saying, I'm saying stuff like sexyass.com.au is worthless. To be worth much in .com.au the name needs to be stellar.

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Many of your posts say .au are worth $0
Not what I have said.

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I am sure you have been around long enough to know what offers the .com version has had.

http://www.dnforum.com/f77/leasing-o...ead-32803.html
No idea what offers it has had, again completely different market. What offers has sexyass.com.au had and what have similar .com.au's sold for? That is what counts.

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I agree that sexyass is worth less then a one word generic domain however it is worth something to the right buyer or developed.
Right buyer...developed....let's talk about what this names can be sold for as is. Not in a scenario that does not exist.
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Old 08-02-12, 08:10 PM
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let's talk about what this names can be sold for as is. Not in a scenario that does not exist.
snoopy you just aren't getting this topic !

"as is" IS dependant on the buyers desire for it NOT YOURS, and this is the case in all sales scenarios.

i think that there are domain names that don't fit into the "stats" type analysis realhm

what was www.telstra.com.au worth before it became telstra?

and by the way..... i personally know that "foxtel" was going to be called "onion" but they couldn't get the domain name ! ( not that onion was a good decision anyway but it does make a statement )

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So basically one sh*ttyass domain is as good as another?
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Old 08-02-12, 08:29 PM
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Don't follow this, I'm saying the name is worthless, far better names sell for $100 in my view. This is the type of names that wouldn't get a bid I think.



If it is so cheap perhaps you should buy it?

I don't buy adult or develop adult domains anymore perhaps you should list it in the right place with targeted adult domain buyers both are worth nothing to me as I have already said.

Next you'll be telling us about the $20 million house in Toorak then comparing it to a house in Frankston. Let's talk about .com.au, that is what this is. Completely different market to .com

I am comparing a house with a pool and a house without both in the same

suburb street stop trying to twist my words.
.com vs .au yes the .com is worth more obviously and I have pointed that out already and it's really one is world wide mostly USA though and one is Australia targeted.

One could argue that the domain Investment property.com would most likely not get as much as the .au



That is not what I am saying, I'm saying stuff like sexyass.com.au is worthless. To be worth much in .com.au the name needs to be stellar.

and I disagree that it is worth nothing it is worth something at least reg fee obviously and I have seen some worse long tail domains go for $100 and more on the after market with very little search volume


Not what I have said.



No idea what offers it has had, again completely different market. What offers has sexyass.com.au had and what have similar .com.au's sold for? That is what counts.

I posted a link which says the .com has had offers as high as 2million

Right buyer...developed....let's talk about what this names can be sold for as is. Not in a scenario that does not exist.
at least $100 undeveloped which has already been pointed out undeveloped should be the bare minimum which is the lowest that you can list for on netfleet aftermarket so this is the lowest value IMHO

and yes to the right buyer it should sell for more although I did show you where to find the right buyer with a decent budget.

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